One Small Step: Behaviour Change at Scale

The third in our environmental series of climate crisis conversations with impact-driven businesses is a conversation with Lily Dempster, founder of One Small Step.

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One small step

The third in our environmental series of climate crisis conversations

A conversation with Lily Dempster, founder of One Small Step

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One Small Step: Behaviour Change at Scale

One Small Step is an app helping people build green habits, cut their carbon footprint and reduce their environmental impact through small behavioural changes.
Harvey loves the work Lily and her team are doing and worked with her on branding for One Small Step, previously known as The Neighbourhood Effect, the brand’s marketing strategy, digital marketing and strategy.
We so admire Lily’s passion and drive for change that when we were pulling together our panel for Pause Fest, she was at the top of our list. It's wonderful that we get to continue the conversation here on the blog.

Harvey: I know you studied law at university and so I’m interested in how you ended up as a climate activist/start-up founder.

Lily: After university I went into government through the graduate program of the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet, and it was an excellent learning experience. I knew that I wanted to do political campaigning and I wanted to be effective, so I felt like I needed to understand more about how government operates from the inside. So I didn't go in thinking ‘I'm going to be a public servant,’  I went in thinking ‘I'm going to do this for two to three years and learn how to be a better political campaigner.’

Harvey: What was the move after being in government?

Lily: I then joined GetUp, which is a national advocacy group, and ran consumer campaigns for them. So, getting people to switch electricity products to greener energy providers. It was my dream job at the time because I was really interested in system changes and policy reform and had been very, very concerned about climate change mitigation from probably around the second year of uni.

Harvey: What did you learn from your time at GetUp that helped you launch One Small Step?

Lily: I recognised that through running consumer campaigns there was a gap in the environmental movement around using our consumer power to grow the market share of environmental-friendly businesses in Australia. I saw with these campaigns that there was a real rapid and tangible impact on carbon emission reductions, just from people switching their electricity provider or getting them buying green power. It busted the myth that individual behaviour isn’t important. Yes, you need top-down policy reform, but you also need behavioural changes to be made. I knew then that I wanted to be able to support people to make environmental shifts and show that small changes are a really viable, important thing to do. Because we have such high personal carbon footprints in Australia, when we act together to do things like reduce our waste, or our energy usage small changes can actually be quite impactful.

Harvey: And that’s the thinking behind One Small Step, right? It’s all about the small changes…

Lily: Exactly. I saw there was an opportunity to use behavioural change in the environmental movement. I was in government thinking: ‘Oh, there’s scientific research on how we can make it easy for people to change their habits.’ What I’ve done with One Small Step is take that research on what's effective in supporting people to adopt pro-environmental behaviours and put it into a low-barrier digital product that you can interact with and that supports you to make those changes.

Harvey: Can you now add ‘behavioural expert’ to your CV?!

Lily: I’ve become obsessed with behavioural economics! I read a huge amount over a five year period, but don’t have any formal training so I brought in expert consultants to help me.  

Harvey: So, with the app now live what’s the plan for it moving forward?

Lily: We’ve taken a lean start-up approach and so every week we’re testing and tweaking the starter programs already being used – programs cover food waste, general waste, trying out plant-based meals, energy saving hacks, cycling and green finance.

Phase two is going to bring in habit-tracking, which I’m really excited about. An example of how it would work would be, say, in the beginner food program. At the moment you can learn about plant-rich meals and how they benefit the environment and pick a couple of recipes. With the tracking tool you can see the real time impact of these changes to your diet  and what your environmental impact will be if you continue to eat more plant-based food on a weekly basis.

Think of it like a Fitbit for your carbon footprint.

Download One Small Step from the App store and start to track your impact.
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  • Maintain B Corp score from 134.1 with workers included
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  • We officially re-certified in November 2023, and are pleased to report we achieved the same score (to the decimal point). Wild! We shared our experience of recertification here.
  • Share templates, documents, insight into business for good
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  • We haven't done this publicly, but when people have asked, we have shared. And we're sharing a series of things as part of this impact report.
  • Maintain current ownership and governance
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  • Harvey is 100% owned by the Smallchua Family Trust. Rebecca Smallchua is our sole Director.
  • Re-use, recycle and manage dangerous waste
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  • We continue to implement our hazardous waste policy and are on a continuous learning and improvement journey.
  • We repair damaged hardware and minimise purchasing of new equipment.
  • Personally we're all Facebook Marketplace fans.
  • Be climate positive at work and at home
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  • We don't track our CO2 emissions, rather we take a much more general and high emissions view. However, this year, we didn't donate to the environment (see above) so we can't say we countered our CO2.
  • Advocate for climate change / inspire sustainable living
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  • We hosted a panel event on Zero Emissions Day in September 2023, along with our friends at Portable, where we interviewed industry experts on the opportunity to engage with community and work towards a more sustainable future. Recording here.
  • Donate 5% to the environment
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  • We didn't make the donation this year as we're revisiting our impact giving model - more details here
  • Invest $20k in impact businesses plus $20k of pro bono time
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  • We delivered some pro bono time but dropped the ball and had no official measurements in place.
  • We also did not invest $20k in impact businesses, and are reviewing this goal going forward. In the last 12 months, our three Impact Investments all lost their value (Whole Kids, Pronto Bottle & Kester Black). While it's not great, we accept this is part of ambitious investing, and each had their own challenges that they couldn't quite overcome.
  • Buy with intention from local and discriminated groups
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  • We continue to be intentional about our suppliers as outlined in our policy and report the details in the Community chapter of our report.
  • Protest and boycott important issues (Australia Day, Melbourne Cup)
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  • Yes and yes!
  • 9 day fortnights, with option for 4 day weeks
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  • 80% work 9 day fortnights, 40% part-time hours, 10% standard working hours.
  • Improve and increase capability across team
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  • Raising our emotional health levels through a leadership development program with Global Leadership Foundation.
  • Expanding output skills: Market research, Web design, content & copywriting, strategy & development and automation strategy.
  • Targeted and clear personal growth, if we are better our clients will be
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  • A new process for 360 feedback, plus personal goal setting questionnaires that ask the big questions of where we want to go and how we'll get there. Also lots of accountability check-ins.

Client survey metrics

  • 3 / 5 value for money (1 - 'could charge less' and 5 - 'could charge more')
  • 8 / 10 likely to recommend
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  • 3.4 / 5 value for money
  • 9.2 / 10 likely to recommend

No destructive clients. Revenue breakdown: 17% Good, 59% Great, 24% Amazing

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  • No destructive clients.
  • Revenue breakdown: 17% Good, 59% Great, 24% Amazing (A little over on Good and under on Great, but on target for Amazing - which is most important, so we're happy with that)
  • All staff spend 80%+ of their time on clients
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  • Spent 64% of our time on clients (under). Due to team changes (recruitment, onboarding and offboarding) and extra investment in training, personal development and community engagement (e.g. B Local), we did not hit this target. On reflection, we will think 80% is too ambitious and we'll be revising to 70% going forward.
  • Regular, honest check-ins about how we feel
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  • Stand ups, development sessions, watercooler chats, impact updates and more.

$994k revenue (Up $211k on FY2223)

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  • $833,588. Revenue was up 6% YoY. Midway through the year, we adjusted down our target to $879k as team growth / services shifted. The main reasons we didn't hit target were scope creep and overruns, both of which we're trying to manage better with process improvements.
  • Maintain B Corp score from 134.1 with workers included
🟢
  • We applied for our B Corp re-certification at the end of this financial year and are pleased to report we achieved the same score (to the decimal point). Wild!
  • Share templates, documents, insight into business for good
🟠
  • We haven't actively done this publicly, but when people have asked, we have shared. And we're sharing a series of things as part of this impact report.
  • Maintain current ownership and governance
🟢
  • Harvey is 100% owned by the Smallchua Family Trust and Rebecca Smallchua is our sole Director.
  • Re-use, recycle and manage dangerous waste
🟢
  • We continue to implement our hazardous waste policy and are on a continuous learning and improvement journey.
  • We repair damaged hardware and minimise purchasing of new equipment.
  • Personally we're all Facebook Marketplace fans.
  • Donate 5% to the environment
🔴
  • We fell short here, we didn't make the donation. More details here.
  • Advocate for climate change / inspire sustainable living
🟢
  • Be climate positive at work and at home
🟠
  • We don't track our CO2 emissions, rather we take a much more general and high emissions view. However, this year, we didn't donate to the environment (see above) so we can't say we countered our CO2.
  • Protest and boycott important issues (Australia Day, Melbourne Cup)
🟢
  • Have a RAP, engaged stakeholders and implemented more change
🔴
  • Due to competing priorities and limited time (no lack in desire) we de-prioritised our Reconciliation Action Plan as we want to do it meaningfully and have the capacity to follow through. However, we took a few first steps outlined here.
  • Buy with intention from local and discriminated groups
🟢
  • We continue to be intentional about our suppliers as outlined in our policy and report the details in the Community chapter of our report. We took it one step further this year with a public call to pledge to audit suppliers in this campaign www.supplier-impact.com
  • Invest $20k in impact businesses plus $20k of 100% pro bono time
🟠
  • We delivered some pro bono time but dropped the ball and had no official measurements in place. We also did not invest $20k in impact businesses because of the reduced revenue with Becky on maternity leave.
  • Sarah personally donated her photography equipment valued at around $7,500 to empower a content and brand producer in the Solomon Islands.
  • 9 day fortnights, with option for 4 day weeks
🟠
  • 40% work 9 day fortnights, 40% part-time hours, 20% standard working hours.
  • Improve and increase capability across team
🟢
  • Elevated our tool nerd level. See here.
  • Expanding output skills: Market research, Web design, strategy & development, video editing, and automation strategy.
  • Targeted and clear personal growth, if we are better our clients will be
🟢
  • Lots of on-the-tools growth, structured learning through weekly Lunch 'n Learns and Intro to Programming at RMIT.

No destructive clients. Revenue breakdown: 15% Good, 60% Great, 25% Amazing (Here's what the classifications mean)

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  • No destructive clients.
  • Revenue breakdown: 10% Good, 66% Great, 25% Amazing
  • All staff spend 70%+ of their time on clients
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  • Spent 71% of our time on clients (over by only 76 hours).

Client survey metrics

  • 3 /5 value for money
  • 8 / 10 likely to recommend
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  • 3.4 / 5 value for money
  • 8.8 / 10 likely to recommend

Maintain current revenue

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  • Revenue down 16% YoY
  • Regular, honest check-ins about how we feel
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  • Stand ups, development sessions, watercooler chats, impact updates and more.
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BZE
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Chaulk
Client Fabric
Clockwork Films
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Cyclion
Dog & Bone
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Evee
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Jaunt
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Lumen
MIIROKO
MK Local Foods
Marnie Hawson
Merry People
Nexa Advisory
No Lights No Lycra
North West Guadalcanal Association (NWGA)
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One Small Step
Parliament of Victoria
Peninsula Hot Springs
Pixii
Portable
Possible
Prisma Legal
ReCo
Shadowboxer
Strongim Bisnis
Studio Schools Australia
THL Tourism Holdings Limited
Thankyou
The Next Economy
The Salvage Yard
The Sociable Weaver
Time
WIRE
Whole Kids
iDE
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22 Bricks
ABCH
ATEC
Abundant Water
Anantaya Jewellery
B Lab ANZ
BZE
Bank Australia
CPSN
Certification O
Chaulk
Client Fabric
Clockwork Films
Common Ground
Compass Studio
Cyclion
Dog & Bone
Envirotecture
Evee
Farm My School
Fellten
Gewürzhaus
Global Leadership Foundation
Goodtel
Green Collar
Hagens Organics
Hey Doodle
Jasper Coffee
Jaunt
KOSI
KingPump
LVLY
Lee Christison
Lumen
MIIROKO
MK Local Foods
Marnie Hawson
Merry People
Nexa Advisory
No Lights No Lycra
North West Guadalcanal Association (NWGA)
OBG
One Small Step
Parliament of Victoria
Peninsula Hot Springs
Pixii
Portable
Possible
Prisma Legal
ReCo
Shadowboxer
Strongim Bisnis
Studio Schools Australia
THL Tourism Holdings Limited
Thankyou
The Next Economy
The Salvage Yard
The Sociable Weaver
Time
WIRE
Whole Kids
iDE

No items found.
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22 Bricks
ABCH
ATEC
Abundant Water
Anantaya Jewellery
B Lab ANZ
BZE
Bank Australia
CPSN
Certification O
Chaulk
Client Fabric
Clockwork Films
Common Ground
Compass Studio
Cyclion
Dog & Bone
Envirotecture
Evee
Farm My School
Fellten
Gewürzhaus
Global Leadership Foundation
Goodtel
Green Collar
Hagens Organics
Hey Doodle
Jasper Coffee
Jaunt
KOSI
KingPump
LVLY
Lee Christison
Lumen
MIIROKO
MK Local Foods
Marnie Hawson
Merry People
Nexa Advisory
No Lights No Lycra
North West Guadalcanal Association (NWGA)
OBG
One Small Step
Parliament of Victoria
Peninsula Hot Springs
Pixii
Portable
Possible
Prisma Legal
ReCo
Shadowboxer
Strongim Bisnis
Studio Schools Australia
THL Tourism Holdings Limited
Thankyou
The Next Economy
The Salvage Yard
The Sociable Weaver
Time
WIRE
Whole Kids
iDE
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